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Guests: Ah Long, Niau Kiaⁿ, WiwiWawa, Bak Kuaⁿ, Tua Pau Sien, Kita Peng Iu, Bo Mo·, Chhau Tau, Belacan Ke·, Haisom, & Liu Lian I.
This week our headmaster, Ah Long, gave us some history of Hokkien. Why and how are things different from one region to another. I learned so much in this podcast. I hope you will too. And we have a FULL HOUSE during this recording.
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I thought “yam-ke” is the turkey. which means the turkey is trying to be the phoenix.
wa kong ‘Ce-kai’ instead of ‘Ce-le’
I like this topic, very educational
Some more got cheebyee lok
splendid episode! absolutely loving it! indeed educational! good job!
Hi guys,
Like to share this article I received some years back:
To all Hokkien langs out there, you must be proud of your dialect. Did you know that the Hokkien dialect was the ancient imperial language of China 2,000 years ago?
Hokkien (Fujian/ Minnan Hua) is:
1. The surviving language of the Tang Dynasty (618 – 907 AD), China’s golden age of culture. (Note: The Hokkien we hear today may have ‘evolved’ from its original form 2,000 years ago but it still retains the main elements of the Tang Dynasty language.)
2. Hokkiens are the surviving descendants of the tang Dynasty. When the Tang Dynasty collapsed, the people of the tang Dynasty fled south and sought refuge in the Hokkien (Fujian) province. Hence Hokkiens called themselves Tng-lang (Tang ren or people of the Tang Dynasty) instead Hua lang (Hua ren).
3. Hokkien has 8 tones instead of Mandarin’s 4. Linguists claim that ancient languages tend to have more complex tones.
4. Hokkien retains the ancient Chinese pronunciation of “K-sounding” endings for instance hak seng (student), tua ok (university), thak chek (read a book, study). Note that the “k-sounding” ending is not found in Mandarin.
5. The collection of the famous “Three hundred Tang Dynasty Poems” sounds better when recited in Hokkien/Teochew as compared to Mandarin.
6. Consider this for a moment. Today the Hokkien Nam Yim orchestral performance still has its roots in ancient Tang Dynasty music. Here’s the proof. The formation of today’s Nam Yim ensemble is typically seen in Tang Dynasty paintings of musicians.
More astonishingly;
Although not genetically related, Hokkiens, Koreans and Japanese share many similar words which are different from Mandarin. That’s because Hokkien was the official language of the Tang Dynasty whose influence and language spread to Japan and Korea (just like Latin where many words were borrowed by the English, French, Italian, etc.)
Here are a few words in Hokkien, Korean and Japanese for your comparison.
English – Hokkien – Korean – Japanese
news – sin boon – sin mun – shinbun (newspaper)
government – cheng hu – chong bu – none
room – pang – pang – none
car/vehicle – chhia – ch’a – none
door – mui/m’ng – mun – none
ticket – p’hio – p’yo – none
eternal – eng wan – yong won – none
book – chaek – ch’ae – none
flag – ki – ki – ki
river – kang – gang/kang – none
insurance – poh hiam – poh ham – none
caution – sio sim – cho sim – none
attend/join/mix – cham – ch’am sok – none
simple – kantan – gan dan – none
new world – sin sei kai – shin sae gae – none
nation – kok ka – kuk kka – none
elder brother – hya – hyaeng – none
prepare – choon pi – jun bi – none
time – si kan – si kan – none
emotion, feeling – kam tong – kam jong – kanjoo
gratitude, thanks – kamsia – kam sa – kansha
marriage – keat hoon – kyol hon – kekkon
exercise – oon tong – undong – undoo
university – Tua ok – tae hak – daigaku
safety – aun chuan – an jon – an zen
satisfaction – mua chiok – man jok – manzoku
success – seng kong – song kong – seikoo
suicide – chhui sat – cha sal – jisatsu
grapes – pu do – p’o d’o – budoo
progress – chin por – chin bo – shinpo
To all 49 million Hokkien speakers; Be proud of your Hokkien heritage and language! Speak it loud and clear! Teach your future generations this imperial language lest it fades away.
Be proud children of the Tang emperors!
tnia (wok) is 鼎?
There are many,many amoy people in Penang Island.
Eddy Chong,Lim Chong Eu,etc.
So the dialect is mixed of chuan,chiang and amoy.
Yeah……
鼎，三足兩耳，和五味之寶器也。
tniá has been the pan for food cooking since few thousand years ago, and Hokkien is by far the only language that still keeps it as a daily word.
Yes……
鼎，三足兩耳，和五味之寶器也。
tniá has been the pan for food cooking since few thousand years ago, and Hokkien is by far the only language that still keeps it as a daily word.
Since this podcast quite informative
I took notes
https://niaseng.barramandi.com/2012/07/transcript.html
1.Jiangxi province gan 江西赣 dialect also use 鼎.
2.chiang ciu people in penang are not really chiang ciu ,they are not recognized as real chiang ciu even in china.The reason is they are from area near Amoy.That area is 海仓 under Amoy now.
3. Who are real chiang ciu?Lim Kit Siang,Lim Kuan Eng,Tan Cheng Lock,etc.Not many of them,they are fewer than teochew people in malaysia 。
Sorry ,it should be ciang ciu /tsiang tsiu.They are called cionn ciu 500 years ago.cuan ciu people called them ciong ciu or cing ciu.
so expersive RM 20! if i go outsdie can eat 4-5 time, also same thing, i think the boss is crazy from making money so idiot. beside the food also taste no so good [like c], the place also smell [like pasar smell] ,service no good always ask for tips ,cheating people money place beside the seafood also not fresh [got smell] and ask for more soup also had to paid RM3 for than lousy soup, better go to little penang or madam kwan! hate it!
John, the “Sabun” in Malay and Hokkien actually is Portugese language.. 🙂
I just heard this from Ai FM.
sabun could be arab origin
In fact the origin of “sabun” is very interesting, without any conclusive theory where it is originated from, latin or arabic.
Because these 2 language influenced a lot of the language in the world through trade and conquest, “sabun” or similar pronounciation is used from east to west.
see below
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f-XnQ3_Q-5s/TP30ux_jcVI/AAAAAAAAJG0/XNBCbrIUiG0/s1600/loan-speculation.jpg
Wow .. very educational .. suka sangat lo ^^