Guests: Hiao Hong & KE
Today we talk to the orignal guests on Penang Hokkien Podcast. We’ll tell you the origin of the Lian Hua story. A little history of Penang Hokkien Podcast’s evolvement. Some short clips from older shows that was part of our beta testing period. Some of you may not have heard of at all. Share your experience listening to Penang Hokkien in our Penang Hokkien forum.
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wa….at last the original cast of PH has returned albeit for just one show… 😛
however evolved this podcast is or will be, one should not forget the contributions of the trio of Miku John, Hiao Hong and KE in making this possible by establishing a base of loyal early adopter listeners in the early days. the fact that so many listeners (old and new) are constantly requesting for the ‘old birds’ like hiao hong to return is proof that they are in reality the heart and soul of PH.
happy first anniversary PH!
p/s grab hold of HH and record hours and hours with him so will have episodes and episodes to air in the future… 😉
Hiao Hong & KE are back!! HOORAY!!
Haha, thank you Ah John for giving me the undeserved ?? hao3tniao4 title. I’m now the ?? who still need a lot of tuition. Haha, so ?? pnai1sheh3. I really hope I can do more for Penang Hokkien in the future.
?? = tseng3 lek1. ? has two colloquial pronunciations: when used alone it is usually lat1, otherwise it is lek1. Literal pronunciation is lit1, which is rarely used in common speech. I think the rule is the same elsewhere. I am not really sure the most common pronunciation in Penang but I?”feel” that tseng3lek1 sounds more natural, tseng3lat1 is abit strange to me. Again this may be subjective.
?? = I am not sure how it is commonly pronounced or used in Penang. In my limited Penang Hokkien experience breakfast, lunch, dinner are not used directly in conversation, instead a more indirect way of saying it is “I’ve eaten in the morning” ????? wa4za1ki4jiak1liao4 rather than “I’ve eaten breakfast”. According to Nicholas Bodman who wrote a “Malayan Amoy Hokkien” book around 1950s says breakfast is Malayan Amoy Hokkien is “chiak3 za1 ki4” ??? or in English literally “eat morning” Hiao Hong might be right when pronoucing ?? as buan1can1, since ? is pronouced as buan1, not meh, which is actually the pronunciation of ? . Another way of saying breakfast, lunch or dinner might be ?? ?Northen Malay, Zhangzhou: am1tnui3; Southern Malaya, Quanzhou: am1teng3). I’ve not heard this expression myself in Penang due to my limited exposure but I think it makes sense since if not mistaken in Penang Hokkien ? tnui3/tneng3 is used as ??? for meals, for example ??? jiak1sna3tnui3/teng3, or in Mandarin expression ??? yi2dun4fan4. I’m not sure what is the common pronunciation for ?, whether it is teng3 or tnui3 in Penang. I think it is tnui3, just like ? is mui not meng in Penang / Zhangzhou variant.
I refer to dictionaries a lot but I don’t really trust them and instead rely on the most common expression current in Penang. I think there is no right or wrong pronunciation, only different one. I myself prefer the most common, general expression on Penang island, but language keeps changing even more so for Penang Hokkien which is never formalized. For me dictionaries are just for reference, and language should be based on living people, not lifeless papers. So what does everyone think “dinner” is called in Penang Hokkien? Based your own experience Is it
1. ?? buan1can1 (hiaohong, Taiwan Hokkien or formal/literal way of saying perhaps?)
2. ?? am1teng3 (Taiwan Hokkien dictionary noted this)
3. ?? am1tnui3 (Zhangzhou or Penang Hokkien?)
4. ??? jiak1am1meh2 (???noted in 1950s Malayan Hokkien)
5. ??? am1meh2jiak1 (my invention, or might’ve actually heard it before)
6. NA [don’t exist] Instead indirect way of saying is used like ????? wa4am1meh2jiak1liao4 is used instead.
Thanks.
Finally can heard from you liao… Hiao Hong 🙂
Remember do come back on show often oh…
It’s a very original cast & original show as well…
The most “Jing Dian (Keng tiam)” phrase i like most is:
[ Sit “Lian Hua” go butterworth ] haha…
I laugh untill beh tahan every time I heard this 🙂
I’m sure John & those “lao Chiao” have lots of great memories
on the beginning of Penang Hokkien.
Fell free to share with us lor… 🙂
Happy Anniversary to Penang Hokkien Podcast….. should thinking of a present to Penang Hokkien…. wait ah….give me 1 day, we will give something special to Penang Hokkien… Ah John ah, remember to check your iDisk…hehehehe
Shua Hu, thank you in advance.
Don’t forget to shoot me an email after you drop it in iDisk.
Happy Anniversary Penang Podcast. At first, I thought the title lianhua eh lai guan is about Ah Lian and Ah Hua in Penang. . . pai seh lah. Anyway, se jit kwai lok to PG podcast.
Kiong hee kiong hee……penanghokkien podcast 1st anniversary!! well done to all penanghokkien “tet piek keh pin” ……………!! Welcome back “Hiaw Hong” & “KE”………………
Hi Miku John,ur hokkien version birthday song really really really really “HO LIAO” ARRRRRR………………..
I got 1 suggestion for PGhokkien podcast,in future episode why not talk about penang hokkien ppl’s pantang larang….!! for example,old old ppl always said if you swallow an oranges seeds,the orange tree will grow on your HEAD.If you eat too much chicken leg,your hand will be trembling when you do your homework….?? Is it true……??
wei….why is english program lai eh???
kiong hi kiong hi, kiong hi kiong hi…
hey! Happy Birthday! time flies…~~~
btw, the restaurant mentioned by hiao hong is located at the new ‘Sunway Mentari Business Park’, opposite Sunway Shopping Mall. the name of the restaurant is ‘Tasty Pot’, business hours is fr morning till 3 pm, open daily.
Food is yummy & cheap, strongly recommended the ‘Pork Leg Black Vinegar’ (hehe, direct translate lar.), i luvvvvvvvv this soooo muchhhh~ pls go there and ‘eow lor’ lar..
and, Ah John, you are really reallyyyyyy good at the ‘hokkien pan’, hahaha, ??????~
Miku John, kiong hee kiong hee… Pg Hokkien podcast is 1 yrs old adi… sure will fully support you!!!
Hiao Hong and KE, welcome bbbbbbbbbbbbbback… come back more often leh…
Wee Lee,
Thanks for the information about Tasty Pot. Tu Kah Oh Chor, wah, so hungry now!
Chai Tiam Ma,
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